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		<title>MrSvensson &#8212; Scam Auctions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Svensson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I got an unsolicited email invitation from some Maria that I&#8217;ve never heard of for an auction site called MrSvensson, that I won&#8217;t deign with a link. I&#8217;ve seen this sort of semi-scammy deal before. Sure, they have auctions. Sure, people win them and get the item. But the entire auction method is completely [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I got an unsolicited email invitation from some Maria that I&#8217;ve never heard of for an auction site called <em>MrSvensson</em>, that I won&#8217;t deign with a link.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen this sort of semi-scammy deal before. Sure, they have auctions. Sure, people win them and get the item. But the entire auction method is completely stacked.</p>
<p>When you bid on an auction, it goes up by 0.10 <span class="caps">SEK </span>(about 0.012 <span class="caps">USD, </span>or 1.2 cents). However, you must first <strong>buy bids</strong> before you can place them.</p>
<p>You can either pay per bid on your phone bill for extortionate sums that MrSvensson blames on the phone carriers (which I totally believe), or buy bid packages with 10 to 50 bids. It starts with 10 bids for 149 <span class="caps">SEK </span>(14.90 each) to 50 bids for 3849 <span class="caps">SEK </span>(7.70 <span class="caps">SEK </span>each). A bid via cell phone costs 20 <span class="caps">SEK </span>per bid.</p>
<p>The big scammy profit for MrSvensson is that you pay them to bid even if you don&#8217;t win. You bid on something, the cost of that auction goes up by 0.10 <span class="caps">SEK, </span>and you&#8217;re down one of your paid bids. If someone places a new bid, it goes up by another 0.10 <span class="caps">SEK </span>and you&#8217;re both not winning the auction and paying them for that lost bid.</p>
<p>Granted, they do have a &#8220;cashback&#8221; deal where the second and third highest bidders (as in most bids placed) get a certain amount of bids back, probably to instill a sense of not actually throwing your bids away, while at the same time encouraging you to place more bids.</p>
<p>On their &#8220;Lucky winners&#8221; page we get a few examples. Someone won a bid on a vacuum cleaner for 25 <span class="caps">SEK.</span> That means with bid increases of 0.10 <span class="caps">SEK </span>there were a total of 250 bids on it.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume that most people go for packages and buy 20 bids at a time. That gives 12.45 <span class="caps">SEK </span>per bid. With 250 bids, that&#8217;s a total of 3112.50 <span class="caps">SEK </span>for that vacuum cleaner.</p>
<p>Did the vacuum cleaner cost that much for MrSvensson? I doubt it. So there&#8217;s one person that got a vacuum cleaner for the extremely low price of 25 <span class="caps">SEK </span>(about 3 dollars), and the rest of the bidders essentially threw their money straight at MrSvensson.</p>
<p>Another example: a digital camera won for 122.70 <span class="caps">SEK.</span> That makes 1227 bids for <strong>a total of 15276.15 <span class="caps">SEK </span>or 1860 <span class="caps">USD</span></strong> in bid fees. It looks like some semi-decent compact camera that I very much doubt costs more than 500 dollars.</p>
<p>Playstation 3 for 216.40 <span class="caps">SEK </span>(26 <span class="caps">USD</span>)? That netted <strong>26941.80 <span class="caps">SEK </span>(3280 <span class="caps">USD</span>) in bid fees.</strong></p>
<p>Is this a legal business method? I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m not a lawyer. It probably is. But I still see it as just a step above scams. There is nothing whatsoever preventing mysterious users run by the people behind the site to place snipe bids on auctions so they don&#8217;t sell too soon in case the item isn&#8217;t profitable via the bid fees yet.</p>
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